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\n Kim Crayton: E Tell me if you
\n Jared Arms: Remember
\n Kim: Low telling if you remember. No way. Forget I'll never forget.
\n Jared: Welcome to the hashtag called Justine Podcast. The show focused on the strategic disruption of the status quo and technical organizations, communities and events
\n Kim: E Hello,
\n Jared: Everyone. And welcome to today's episode of the Hashtag cause A scene podcast I have with me today a gentleman I haven't seen in almost a year. I met him at Blacks in Tech. Their first conference they had in Minneapolis. I guess it was last October, and I was really impressed with this young Black man. And I told him then that I wanted him on my show and finally tracked him down. And so I'm gonna let you introduce yourself. Jared, could you please introduce yourself to the
\n Kim: Audience? Yes. Thank you for having me on my name is Jared armed? I'm the founder and CEO of a company called Collar Dalio, which is a tech platform for communities and start ups based out of ST Louis, Missouri. And I launched it about six years ago in 2013, So
\n Jared: Yeah. All right, so we're gonna get more into that, So I always start my show with two questions. Why is it important to cause a scene? And how are you causing a scene?
\n Kim: Great questions. So one of the first one. Why is it important to cause speaking this to help break a lot of today's cycles that we're still currently facing? And I know coming up in ST Louis, Missouri, just, like like, low education, like really high statistics when it comes to a certain communities being HIV and AIDS infected, high number of people incarcerated and things like that. But just really low numbers when it comes to, say, business owners in the tech industry, or just Blockchain specialists, game developers and things like that trying to cause a scene to make sure that we could just change this ad is quote so a program that I had a launch in 2014 year after, initial. The launch was called Qala Dario for Kids, which is a kid friendly version of our parent company, and we have launched this partner with companies like connections to success and grace hell in the north side city of ST Louis, and the way we've been able to expand on that is by, basically just really teaching. Like some of these underserved teens. They like to call them at risk teens, but I like to call them high potential teams. And by teaching these students these new tech advanced skills, we just hope toe inspire them toe. Want to take that as a career path and then eventually being able to just traveler just have a different outcome when it comes to the future of their career. And we've been having some really great success. A lot of partners have joined on board since 2014. So now we've been able to work with Clinton Family Court, which is a pretty popular, court system down here in ST Louis. And they have something juvenile detention center within the court system. Like a lot of dudes. So we got our tech camp inside of there now for about a year working with the young Jewish students, partner, nobody. Just different school districts like Hazelwood School District was the school district I attended. Yeah, you know how you know how you go on saying look, So just having autumn connections and stuff like that. So it's been going good, but We also launched other programs to try to cause a scene, too, in a different way. So not only teaching the kids try to be absolute Web, but so my mom, Alana arms. We partnered together and she's a licensed clinical social workers. So with her having her credentials, we launched the trauma program. And the reason why it's a lot of reasons, but one in particular. 2014. It was one of my students that I was teaching at this school called, Well, I just keep that private for his security. But basically one of these third graders had witnessed his brother, basically get slain and things like that. And he was he came to school like the next day. So that was my first time actually meeting that student that day. He'd been up at the school for some time, and when I got connected, he was like one of the students. That was just days and up. Basically, they had him upstairs on a day when I went to go see what was wrong with him. He was telling me what had happened, but he ain't telling nobody else at the school. I'm sure his parents told the school and things like that. But I don't think that they knew. That's why he was acting out. And I was like, Man, you know, they got the funding for me to get paid. They got the kids of everything going right with stem program. But you traumatized man. So I was like, let me, you know, try to connect with some good people and try toe just provide some other services for that. And then then there was a lot more other urgent situations to that made us launch their program. So now we focused on, you know, providing mental health therapy as well as, like, stem career development. So that was like my main two primary core programs. That kind of data that we focused on and everything else kinda manifested from those two. So that was like, the two main ways I try to do to create a scene off course. I know we're going engage deep in the conversation. So just two more things. I think it would be important on the decrease in the gun violence side, we launched a probe. A program, I would say, like a workshop called a non violent video game jam in 2017 with the ST Louis County and City Police Department and the Microsoft store. And that's where we gather 20 white male officers in 20 juvenile students on but that that that no, they lawyered kind of at risk just because of the position they was in and connected them together, where they could play the Xbox game at Microsoft Store in the Galleria Mall. Out here, basically playing non violent video games with each other to humanize the community. And then from that I was like, Well, you know, aside from them playing video games, let's let's have them actually build video games And then we launched that went 2018 last year, partner with the Boys and Girls Club. And then we are attracted like African American as well as Latino officers. Toe really, really try to humanize the community. But the idea was that because one of the one of the colleges that I'm working out of this is a place called ST Louis. Community colleges, like literally, like four or five minutes down the street from the the event where Mike Brown death took place. So when I have some of the students coming outside of that college right on. What's Lorrison again? some of the students, of course, be like grades K through eighth grades. So they may be like ages five or 6 to 14. But for a lot of the 15 through 18 year olds are 15 through college. When they when the the ones who do have to walk back down the street on West Florissant we wanna we want folx inside of the computer lab too big. I know this young guy, this young Lady Jane and John Doe faras the ICTY instructors and then when they leave, not saying they're gonna know everybody. But then when they leave outside of the computer lab, if they run into one of these officers, this officer may remember him as a game developer or the actual man or female Versaces something that they see. So that's that's another thing that I'm doing to extend, like, really trying to gun violence, knowing how much they really play a role in to that. And so I would say, you know, that was just a little few things,
\n Jared: But just a few
\n Kim: E
\n Jared: Exactly s So this is why I I knew this way didn't even speak long. But I knew that there waas because also and that was the conference that I met Nipsey Hustle. And it was on a panel with him. And
\n Kim: You are
\n Jared: Doing what they are doing the same thing he was doing. You're just not a rapper, but you're on the ground, you're in the community and you're really doing things. And I want to say, though it's not just in ST Louis, because I'm on when I'm on LinkedIn. You are everywhere, everywhere. And I told you then until until I don't remember a conversation because you were kind of like, Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm like, dude own this shit you're doing you are making you are the example that our communities need And you're the example that white people need to see that says, you know what? We don't need your handouts. What we
\n Kim: Need you to do is get the
\n Jared: Hell out of the way care of our own communities. Because we know what's best for our own communities. And this is why diversity. It's so important because how would anyone have known or thought to have a non violent game, day with white officers. And then you know that that stuff that we know about our communities and I love how, because I'm might start with working with young people was in the process called positive development, where we didn't know child was that all Children are at risk to me if you don't be they white, Black, brown, Asian. If they're not getting the things they need to develop bomb into, healthy mentally, physically young people, they are all at risk. And so I hate when they make inner city kids at risk, because I could tell you, the inner city kids are at risk in their communities of fluent and privileged. Kids are at risk all over the damn place because they have access to shit that we've never had access to. So that's why they get in trouble on some levels. We never heard off eso we One of the things we used to call it is at promise eso positively development is seeing not focusing on deficits but focusing on potential or focusing on deposit. So I recognize where you are. But I also recognize that's not who you are. That's just where that's just your behavior, the things you've done, the situation you're in. But that is not who you are as a human being. And so you're speaking directly to my heart and particularly again when we're talking about you're talking about your trauma program. You started with your mom, I suppose, a high school teacher and and, certified special needs. And the last year of teaching literally, I would push because they had me teaching math. I'm like, What are you doing this? So I would push my students into a math program with a qualified math teacher, And I would do discipline and counseling all day for the administrators, because though worse behavior, what they consider the worst behaved kids would come to me because they knew they could tell me anything. The ones that were in trauma, all that I mean, just all they knew that they could tell me anything, and I'm going to say something here. And it's always something that shocks people because I always This is how we get students, I would say so someone would come to me and say, Miss Creighton, yeah, this this young lady was at a party all weekend and she was, you know, doing this thing and I would go up to her, and I say So you were sucking Dick all weekend. Is that what we do now? And and then they would look at me like huh? And then and I would have to say it in that way so they could get that I get what you're doing. Now let's talk about why you doing that. And and more times out of none. It was because there was some kind of sexual trauma that they were dealing with. They did not know how to mix boundaries sexually, and all kinds of stuff. So it zipping beneath understanding what That these young people are in trauma. They're dealing with trump on a daily basis and getting outside of our that status quo that is middle class school behavior and accepting these young people where they are and then providing and saying, I see you, there's nothing wrong with you. I might not appreciate our approve of your behavior, but that's just your behavior. That is not who you are. And on top of that, I want to provide you with the support so you can get the skills you need. And so when you're saying you're not only giving them, career skills, but you're also giving them skills on how to cope with their emotions. And that is so freaking important. Because this is why, you're talking about down the street from where, you know, right with this young man was killed, how many of those young people dealt with the trauma of that
\n Kim: Man? That huge amount Huge amount down to the as I'm sure you've seen through the media Just other things, down toe. Like I know one of my younger cousins at the time. Not now, but she at the time I want to say I want to say,
\n Jared: Like either
\n Kim: Fourth or fifth grade in, because that was about five years ago. So she, they was literally, like probably like, just 23 lit streets down from a little quick trip. And I know it was a few little girls and things like that, that she was just having some trouble. We don't some like really little kids stuff, little pick and jokes and all of that So she used to tell me about it. And I try to give a little advice and stuff and she like a sense like sensitive and like the actual girly girly. So I'm like, let me try to get her into the little fighter but still stand up for yourself. And after the death of Mike Brown, it was It was, some guy had did some drive by shooting and end up shooting at that house that the girl who was kind of joining on my little cousin was saying they was like younger kids and stuff like that. But she end up dying from a straight, both sitting in the bed. I believe doing their homework. And that wasn't too long after that had happened with Brown. So even though it was a different situation, it was just different things. That was the current still, like within Ferguson. So, Mother cousin, I'm asking her like because it with me. I'll talk about my friend Stacy passing at 17 and stuff, but we're her still in elementary school and losing friends to gun violence, just doing their homework, and they ain't out of the streets on drugs and acting like hoes and nothing like that is on a different level. Level of innocence. And I'm asking what? How how does she feel? What did she do? She telling me that that she went to school and told her friends that she was sorry for their loss and things like that. I'm like, man now you getting picked on there making jokes on you and stuff and one of them have lost their life innocently. And you still had the courage in the heart to go over there. The basically be friends and keep the peace with them and stuff. So see how they're going through stuff at a younger age. I was like, Wow, just dealing with it on top of the whole Ferguson situation, Just other list stuff that's popping out from that. And another one was like because I was in New York and in ST Louis when they had both read the verdicts and stuff like that for Eric and for Mike. So the question ST. Louis, I remember the actual day that they was going to get that verdict, and it was like everybody trying to go home and stuff because they just thinking there's gonna be crazy junk. And the first time it happened where they just had that little riot. I'm at home, watching it from TV and stuff. But the second time I was in school, actually in the class s So the kids, they was like they were spirited. And these, like some of the the light turned up kids that that I would be connected within the city. They were scared to go outside that building that day, and, they really thought I was gonna go down. And I knew if nothing was gonna happen in that area that we was, because it was like in the city, more so than Ferguson, which is kind of a little bit in the county. But they were still I was like, you know, is good and we kind of walked out a little bit, just walked out a little bit more. Common stuff like that are a little bit more. There was just a little timid, I would say. And I was like, Man, it's kinda deep to see how it's affecting them like that. And we had this one partnership with this group called Ferguson Radio. Then I was doing some love podcast and streaming stuff with them for a minute in early 2015 when I returned from New York. But I end up catching just a few folx, some of the white women in there acting like they don't know where they at and what's going on. Little computers being left open. You're seeing pictures with them and during Wilson and stuff like that, and I had a quickly a quest exit my way. But I was just seeing how they still tryingto manipulating use folx trying to offer us these little fake wannabe the opportunities to help us drive business but at the same time knows just le pockets for them to kind of keep your eyes and Arizona What's going on? So, that type, you know, that has been crazy, but on the on, going from that and then just going back to like some of this, like the normal stuff that happened, like one of the young girls that was in the Julies in the last year, she, there's a lot of them outside of the Judy Center that's sharing similar stories, But her is kind of touching because he got locked up for it. And she was saying that her mom boyfriend was touching on it and kind of molested a few times, and her mom didn't believe that. So she ended up running away, and, she end up stealing food and basically got caught doing that. And that's how she got in June, that detention center. So you got a lot of brothers down there who, working in their who? Just trying to get their check, some actually trying to make a difference. That's why they reaching out to people like myself and others. But I was telling her I was like, Just because you don't have cash or credit right now that don't mean that that's the only two means and how you can get food like that. She, like with high heels on the hell am I supposed to get this in 13? I I can't legally work or do nothing. And, I'm like, all right. So we decided to kind of add more features to our college coin, Cryptocurrency project I was telling you about, and I was kind of sharing some of that to the folx at the Best Buy speech I had to give in October because the title at first the title was economic empowerment using crypto currency than to switch toe. How to recycle the Black dollar using crypto currency so is more tailored. And just to kind of go back real quick. In October, it was a few folx asking some really good questions, but two of them that stuck with me was one. What? Well, there was three questions, actually. One. What's the difference between you and King and Marcus Garvey with this Black dollar idea to, I think one guy was from the Federal Reserve that was there, So he was asking with him, seeing future agendas where they're gonna be excluding these cash from selective banks, replacing it with their own virtual currencies. How will I be able to pay investors? That's part. That's what that's. There's members of those banks when they replace him, since everything kind of based on me, replacing them with the U. S. D. Right now and then the third one was like, It is great that we can see that these, kids can use this color coin in order to benefit off and receive these gift cards for free. But all of these gift cards from these companies are from white owned companies. None of them are Black owned businesses, so the collar coin is cool. But it's kind of still profiting. White owned businesses, not iron. So how can we take advantage of that? And it was a lot of questions that they asked, but them three always stuck with me. So for the first one, when he asked about the King and Marcus Barbie thing off course, there's a huge difference on the historical level. But just what they was able to answer that one for me. Easier because I was like to go. Just another motherfucker just hating. I always wanted to say some shit, but what he was really talking about was like, Nah, they had similar ideas, you know, And they work for a minute, you know, some the Black Wall Street, these different times they raised their millions, but all of them got killed, got burned on, and we don't want to see that happen to you. So if you're thinking that that's not gonna happen, what makes you so different than them? So when he asked them or in detail like that Other guys were saying Well, not saying that just because he got the solution that don't mean nothing can happen because it is a different one, especially Ah, Black man, Black woman who practice that militancy. Start speaking about financial, advantages and stuff. So I was like, you know, they were They answered for they say, Well, you know, King and none of them actually never was able to create the currency like that. It was only just to create some type of marketing or some type of like plan, but not necessarily own the u. S. D like that. So by these Cryptocurrencies can actually create their own the currencies and still, of course, pay taxes and a part of the government rules and regulations, but still had his new lawyer way that we can do it. There's one thing, because now we can say, Well, every time someone used this currency, we want this transaction fee TV at this price, and we want a certain percentage of it to go to this homeless organization or tow this podcast organization or to this thing out of Minnesota versus just to some motherfucker who might get some new boots or something. You know, it's for a war that we don't even care about. Like, that's where as far as where our tax dollars go on the Cryptocurrency side, not the US decide. So that was one thing I was like. OK, so now it's not just about all right, Black folx, white folx. But depending on who we want to talk to, we could make it on the religious based religion currency. Corporate currents, of course. Race, currency. However, we wanna talk about it. The second one was more about the replacing them with the different cryptocurrencies when they excluded and use cash. So we got this partner who got this really nice investment in this Cryptocurrency company called Z Cash. And he, did not it this definitely it causes semen. Because when I was in D. C, a lot of them white voices like man, hold on. This is this. What do you mean? You have more than what Google is telling us. And I had you and I was explaining to them like I'm not out here to explain myself to be training y'all like that. I'm only out here to compete and win this people currency and you know, that's what it was. So I had to let them know that's just an example of you having access to public data. What I'm telling you is something that I have access to private data. But I can't explain it like that because it's like I ain't no, not with that, but my partner. He has over 600 million Z cash right now for his public. I mean private Z cash. So on that note, that's one to say the least real quick for the new folx that's getting into the Blockchain and crypto. There's more Z cash is like I would say they got like the blue check mark from the SEC, to say the least when it comes to like they platform and things like that. So they didn't kind of went through the that that storm and made it out good, and they've been a approved on the federal level. So a lot of folx using request the government trying to make their own look Z cash should knocked him out. But they got the check mark, to say the least, from the Security Exchange Commission So with my partner having that his foot in them like that and, already making his investment and getting a nice little position way before I even launched my coin, from like, more from, like a military connections and how he got that type of opportunity. He good. So we was able to answer them because that Z cash is something that I'm usually talking toe. What owners that's like $200 million end up because there's really for building generational wealth. And when I'm talking to any like Black person, especially about building generational world, it ain't Alright, let's let's learn these skills. Make all this money hella fast, whatever. But whatever you decide to do, you could be a fun. You could be a dentist. I could be that man, whatever. Once we make our first million two billion or 200 million, whatever the idea to put it back in them banks to where they're gonna profit off the transaction feast or having access to all activity, that's not the way to do it. You can do it with cash has been federally approved and that we leaving easy cash at the amount of time. There's just a lot of opportunities are not having a hit. Too many things on taxes and stuff, cause a lot of this stuff with taxes really come from just them centralized service and things like that. Everything with this decentralization decentralized type of creation. And it's just good, long as you're paying your taxes. So I was telling him once they exclude them, we would be able to pay them with Z cash because we got such a huge amount of it that we just kind of letting, that we kind of just preserving right now. And when I said that, he was like, You know, I gotta I need to connect with you more because he knew that it was legit. And I'm actually had that guy who come speak at this conference in July. Jonathan Banks, just to talk more about, like, some of the rules and regulations from the Federal Reserve side. More than just Jared being excited about it. And the last one was about, yeah, we see these give cause that they able to use for free. But I was given the example of how the homeless teams in ST Louis in October at Best Buy. How coming up soon in November, followed by Christmas, they would be able to use them so they like, You know, it's cool, and I understand that was like a Blacks and tickle like Blacks event. So it was a different type of like questions that hit. But I was explaining to them, too, when these folx coming outside of Flow Valley for my for my experience, they walk and pass McDonald's, Wal Mart, Burger King, Starbucks and all this type of stuff. Of course, until you get some of your companies in ST Louis, especially in Ferguson on West Florissant, where they choose in the walk it then then we'll start having more stuff like that when these gift cards for whoever for whatever business that that that you do have existed start being available where we could get their parts, that then we could start doing all this stuff. So So I was explaining to him just on the small level to introduce it to him, because this is not introducing Blockchain and crypto as a career specialists it, but just more so as an end user on how to use the product toe eat basically for free. And it was coming off of the experience from the little girl and Julie Center and they and they and they And they was, you know, they was We was all open and stuff. And I'm like, You know what? You're right. I'm not. I don't really have an application or a protocol to follow for Black business on the in particular to be on this. And since I'm really doing that for that, let me try to create something. So So November last year, I end a partner with, every child, hope and organization called Teens of Tomorrow, which is these organizations that focus on, like teens, experiencing homelessness and other things as well. And we basically created, like, this custom link that we sent out to our partners, where they could pick students randomly only because they had so many and we had a limited amount due to the funding. But they could basically pick, one or several if they if we have more, they could pick from and one organization got to hit it more than one time. But at the first layer dips, everybody could use this to pick out a free gift were basically share this with one of the teams Who you think they really need this more than the other ones and stuff like that, even though they are equal. And basically she could pick from these gift cards and then we have delivered for free too long as they like, within 50 miles of where we, what we sell them from basically giving them away from. But we still making saying that they gotta order. But it was still like a free order. And the first two that did it was every child hoping tens of tomorrow And, there was good because one got the Applebee's one had got a Texas Roadhouse, and for me, it was just good to see even though is limited. And, it was good on Thanksgiving to say Alright, yeah, I could use the collar coin order free prepaid gift card that's paid up to $25. You can have a free meal. And it was just a small example of how you could use crypto currency. They eat for free.
\n Jared: Hello, all. For many of you, 2020 has turned out to be the year that I've been waiting for the moment for you to realize that fundamental, systemic changes necessary for us to move forward as an inclusive society. Many of you have also realized the importance of protecting and supporting independent voices like my own enforcing this necessary change. This work requires independence because the status quo i e. Corporate blackface doesn't change when power, privilege and money can be leveraged against the truth. Which means that your financial support via becoming a hashtag cause a scene sponsor is required. Please visit hashtag called the scene dot com and become a monthly sponsor off the community. Thank you and have a wonderful
\n Kim: Day. Free give are paid up to $25. You can have a free meal, and it was just a small example of how you could use crypto currency. They eat for free versus only using it on Lee versus only when you had cash or credit. So it was like the three seeds I love that you already kind of embedded the international experiences born on because I had, of course, folx reaching out and stuff like that after I put this stuff out on social media and closing with this answer. I had to organizations that that I started with one in Ghana in Africa and one and, in the in the state of end. I can't pronounce it right now at the time, so excuse me, but it was too. Of one. Was this group of refugees women that was in his refugees count. They have got rescued from some of these community leaders. That was just just from tragic situations. I'm not gonna say every single one, but I would say at least 85% of these 100 plus women lost eight Children or husbands just do the different traumatic situations. But they were ableto get rescued. And I got connected with a few people who, and still currently connected with him up, basically helping these women learn how toe, learn, like, different like, First of all, I learned how toe read and write a little bit more because they all come from different areas and stuff. Then how to learn different skills. So trying to teach them how to become a baker and then get certified by the NGO so they could start getting some type of business to provide income for themselves. But, where they they location is everything and the wrong location being up, Some people could come and just get them again, and it could just be another current situation. So with Blockchain and Cryptocurrency playing a strong role and encryption and making these transactions anonymous and stuff, that was a good example for me to be able to partner with folx about OK, this is how they gonna be able to use it even though they do need help. Gaining some resource is, and getting a accessories and things like that all the ingredients was more important is to receive Father that without being ableto basically give away their location using the Kyler coin. So we was able to do that and we helped them raise about $200 to convert that into, like, 900 CDs in Ghana. And they was able to buy all the accessories and stuff like that just on the first one. The next group was this group in India, and I can share some photos with your stuff like that. But the next group was with India in a orphan Children. So this was the reverse now. So these are the kids more so than the parents. And their thing was again. All of these people just need help. Raising resource is, but it's a lot more than just that. So, with the students over there, I have them creating something called Smart Art and basically on the smart art. Because it's like just different groups. So it's like a group in Fiji that had reached out to me in 2014 before I launched a lot of these programs. I mean, in 2013, actually, and they were saying that it was, this area that are these people that still practice cannibalism, like real strong. And they wanted me thio work with these preschoolers to start doing like these courses to try to help, redeveloped like new mentalities for new generations and stuff. And at that time, I was like just working out the hotel that I was living out of, So I'm like, now we know I ain't got resource is to be doing stuff like that. But now that is six years down the road. I'm like, let me make sure I had these kids, doing positive stuff, too, because them just sitting around seeing all of that stuff, beat regards. If there's people just doing regular still in the prostitution, whatever the case may be, it's like everybody need to be working. So having them doing smart things, and then for every art design they create, they basically make they earn a certain amount of Skylar coins for free that they could start making money. I thought so. That and to close with this. Basically, when I first learned about Blockchain and Bitcoin and all that, I was gonna do this, this write this script this crypto while it for this tax company out in Atlanta. And when I was headed back to ST Louis just for Christmas, my uber driver was asking me, Have I uploaded a no jet toe Blockchain? And I ain't never heard of No, no, nothing like that. That I was just doing my little things. I'm like, man, what you're talking about. He was telling me he was like, You know, if you upload a note to it and if they get approved and accept that you could get some free Bitcoins plus this distant third I'm like, What? So I'm like, Well, let me create something some type of incentive program toe where people can follow us, I guess a program protocol. Then they could be compensated for that. And in this case, if you create smart art, you'll make Cem cryptocurrencies back. And when people use these currencies here in the States, they could start making money from it. Now these like kids and stuff like that. So, of course, there's some adults who overall or they things. So it's a lot of new developments that's involved right now to make sure that these folx that's gonna be like, finessing these little kids and all that. That's why I made. That's why a lot of the pictures you've probably seen last year in November, December I was in having the kids hold the gift cards up and stuff like that just because some of some of the students you know, they going through stuff. But I experienced a few of them who are really got the energy or the appetite they eat. Right now. They're just trying to get high. They don't care about how they closed looking or whatever the edges eat their little burger and fried her in there. But if they got 20 or 30 or $50 they're trying to get high. And, some of you know I've been bought clothes for they still sold it and and things like that. So I'm like, let us try to focus on stuff like food and things like that so they don't get them some pretty interesting things. But when I bring it back to D. C this year, that's where it was like 20 of the top 100 Cryptocurrency companies around the states got invited out, toe partner up and just all talk about more bigger things. So you had a lot of like Trump supporters. There are a lot of people supporting, like organizations based out in Russia and things like that. And I was only African American company that had got invited as one of the Blockchain companies toe come out and pitching stuff. So competing with them people versus like being, I guess, like the number one person who could talk about it at in October with Blacks and technology for us. But then then they they're going to D. C and having to compete with like some of the top gurus. But then, way end up having to do this competition, and I end up winning this competition. And it was pretty tough competitors out there like Master Genesis. That's a Blockchain company that can produce over. Over, I would say up to 100,000 transactions per second. There was a lot of companies out there. You had people from, like, Bitcoin and things like that, Like coin Pat Coyne. A lot of us was just doing like, a lot of collaborative panel discussions, but at the competition at the end, we had about four minutes to pitch, and I used about two minutes, and I was telling them that, everybody out here cannot invest into my currency and cannot just come on board because, like, it was a few pictures that I was noticing that that that that they had around at that event like one picture was like the current the uncle sound with a Tommy gun with like, five slaves behind him, holding white sheets with a pyramid in the background and then the airplane turning. And I wouldn't notice and stuff like that until after the fact, my photographer was saying, Hey, man, look at this. Look at that. Look at that. So I was like, Well, you know what? I don't really like this energy like this, because we ain't really no matter what are people, even though we got some of our people that so some of us and stuff we're not going to be glorifying none of that had no event like that. Still, after I made my pitch and stuff, I actually was leaving all this stuff because after I had did my pitch, I had this guy come up to me and hear the he called. He told me I looked like he said, I look like I resemble a full blown monkey And he kind of did this little smile with it and walked out. So I'm like, You know, what? If this stuff I ain't got time for this stuff because I ain't come out here or even think that these folx who had this type of attitude towards me because it was all good over the phone and via email and stuff like that and I didn't say nothing. Racism, you know, disrespectful to nobody At that conference, before there or after the fact. So I was like, Let me leave. So I ain't even really lead us to stay to see everyone Who else who pitched. But soon as I was about to leave and I literally had my foot on the steps and it was crazy because as I was walking out, there was these two Black dudes walking in and I was like, Alright, somebody I could kind of connect with, But it was almost over with. So they was like, they was like, Oh, man, you did Black dude, that we've seen on the website, they was like, Why you leave? And I was like, I've been up here all day like it's over with their my little talking stuff. They was like, Well, we was coming up here to basically because we've seen, like, out of all the speakers. There was one Black speaker and we really didn't believe with no Black man knew anything about Black chain. But we looked at your social media profile and saying he was like legit dude. So we were just interested to see what you could talk about, what you had to talk about it. So as I was about to answer him, That's where the dude come out. Jared, come in here. You want to contest? You won the contest, so I was about to leave. But after I end up winning the stuff, of course, you've got all of the folx trying to gravitating connecting things like that in ways they weren't really trying to do before. Well, you know, But then that's where, like the little threats come in that So now I'm getting worried about the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and just these different organizations and families that really run the world through these banks and stuff like that in Ah, so now it's just so that just made me to say, Let me, let me just launch my own Blockchain conference because every time, even though, of course I'm gonna keep traveling and keep speaking and stuff like that. But every time I go out of town, it seemed like a I don't know, it just seemed like that. They kind of like it didn't seem like it's just a waste of my time because it be like this stuff I'll be talking about, be some really stuff to be like, all right, clap Or like Oh, man, you're doing great stuff. Keep it up. And it's like, I know I'm doing great work. Like, I know I ain't come out here just to hurt like, Oh, you're awesome, man. Never, Never stop. It's like And then I'm putting up the money for the stuff that I'm investing into with me and my partners and stuff. So it's like and we ain't really going out trying to sell shit and like milk, nobody. So we're really trying to just do some stuff and hoping we have a good experience and to see some of that stuff like that, I'm like, Nah. So, yeah, that's where I met. Now is like trying not to just waste my energy, my time and stuff like that, not trying toe reminded somebody because some of these people think like like, you know, they just, like, just think like a man. He just want us to like him. He want us to listen to him, talk all day and stuff like that. So now it's been, you know, I had a meeting with the first vice president at first bait about a month ago, he reached out and he was open. I wanted to learn about this stuff, and I go in there and, the way he talking and stuff on the phone, you know, everything all good. When I goto the way he was acting in front of the white folx, he just made he really missed out on a good opportunity. OK, I'm gonna stop
\n Jared: You right there. OK? Alright, Alright. Because yeah, this is I think this is also a conversation I was having with you. Because, yeah, you're giving too much and you're not getting enough in return. And this is what? And this is why
\n Kim: I again
\n Jared: So let me speak to my audience. I let Jared talk because uninterrupted into now, because I need you white folx to understand that Black people are doing the same thing you're doing and we're kicking ass. That was one of the things that I went to a Blockchain talk at self cough. Someone wanted me to come in and sit on her talk and everybody was all excited and talking about all it changes the world. And and and and I said so How is it changing the world for marginalized people? And then, you know, the white guys were like, Yeah, they're able to use thes gift cards. Those Yeah, but are you showing them how to create their own? Because what you're doing is exploiting the fact that they don't have anything so white. People are still making money off them. And when I said that, everybody shut their mouth because I was like, Yeah, unless you showing them how to create this themselves, you're still benefiting from their trauma. So I don't want to hear about that. And I wanted you to continue to tell this story. And I know some people may think, Oh, he was all over the place, But it doesn't fucking matter. He was You were telling your lived experience, and the bottom line is, and this is something I know. I told you. Then there is no inhale. You should be talking to some person at a bank and not being paid. There is no way in hell you need to be traveling all over this country of this world for white people and not being paid. There you have a skill set that very few in the Black community have because no one is trying to teach us. I mean, until this point, Blockchain and particularly Bitcoin has been a white privileged man's game because you had to have the computers, you had to have the skills to mine it all. That stuff is capital intensive. And the fact that you can speak to, these young the trauma in our communities, the fact that you can speak to ah, young lady who is getting molested and, Azzan now in a juvenile detention center just because she wants to eat when the opportunity is usually prostitution or stealing. And this is where I again I never know where these conversations are going, but I'm happy. To have someone like you on here and just let you talk because I need white people to understand we're not having the same fucking experience. We're not We're not white dude. And Blockchain and Bitcoin is just like, Oh my God, you are the second coming. Ah, Black dude doing what you're doing And then I want todo I wanted you to continue to talk because I'm always hearing from white people What can I do? I don't know what to do. How many fucking things are you doing? I heard I counted about 10 to 12. So it's like, get off your lazy ass is and get to fucking work if you can't go into these communities and you probably can't because no one's going to trust you partner with someone like Jared and help him make a difference. Help him change his stop sitting on your ass thinking about how this is gonna benefit you. We get there together or not at all. And this is why I say white people are the most mediocre people in the Oh, my God. You have been allowed to get away with just giving the bare minimum effort and getting, collapse on the back where, as we constantly have to keep doing and keep out doing just just to keep up.
\n Kim: Yeah, I had the got the CEO and founder actually of the company Master Genesis that I was telling you about. We had grabbed from Hooters after that pitch competition in D. C. So that was Friday and Saturday. So this probably Sunday morning before we all head back out and we just chopping it up? So of course they're trying to figure my stuff out because they walk in there. All right, let the best man win and just acting, You know how they do with the white privilege. So after I won the competition and stuff
\n Jared: Way
\n Kim: Had the who is the next day and the guy ask me, like, what? Basically, like, what do you use? And then what is this? What is this? What is this? Just trying to figure it out. So I'm like, Well, we basically just have some, like some love just kind of just going along. And he's like, Oh, so you just gotta market shirt basically and I'm like, yeah, whatever you wanted, limited and call it That's what it is. Basically. So the other guy, Well, it sounds like this is what it is. I'm like, you know what? You right? That's what it actually is, E O s. I want to say, Well, you know, I mean, I want to partner with you and stuff like that, and, you know, it sounds great. And, man, you're doing some very great stuff, but you know I can't go to Children so I'm like, I don't know what he meant by that, but all I could take it is that whoever was buying my my coins was like it was some dope money or something illegal. So he said that like 23 times and stuff out there while I'm like, Well, some probably wrong with you then. So I'm like, Well, look, regardless of whatever you're talking about, I said if we take our seatbelt off the wrong way or if one of our look female cousins at the pool party doing nothing wrong, she might get Aslam, we might get shot just taking off the seat belt the wrong way or just listening to what the officer telling us to do. We got a legal rightto have firearms on us. We have a legal right to have them in Missouri is open. Carry in. Stand your ground. Now, is that the first edition last year? So I was like, We we can do that. So it's like it don't matter what we do, right. We still fuck around, get killed type shit, doing the wrong thing because how scary jobless us about. So when it come to this crypto and Blockchain Shit. I don't have no room to fuck up. I don't have no room with double checking the e
\n Jared: Because your ass for being federal fucking prison.
\n Kim: And I don't have no, no no room of for you to be any source of validation for me. So it's just like
\n Jared: E. I had
\n Kim: To let him know everything that I do right? Don't even matter because I'm still Black, so it's like,
\n Jared: Thanks. Oh, well, see you better than me, because I would have snapped on his ass the first time he said something about going to fucking jail. I was like, What the fuck? E o? Because I would
\n Kim: Have snapped on that. I would have
\n Jared: Snapped on that monkey ass comment. I would have been like, What the fuck you mean, why you called me a monkey? Something funny? I was all that. And so I get why you can, because there's a Black man. You cannot do that.
\n Kim: And eso
\n Jared: I get So there's a whole bunch of shit that you've been on these They're not even microaggressions their fucking outright racist ass comments that people are saying to you as you hustle as you make good for your fucking community while all these lazy ass white people sit around and I hope you can I will kick your ass if you give them any opportunities to steal or copy
\n Kim: Your shit.
\n Jared: And and and that's
\n Kim: Meteo.
\n Jared: You laugh. There's not a smile on my face. I'm not fucking laugh because what they will do is still your shit cause they take all our shit anyway. And what you're trying to do is uplifted fucking community we can't afford for you to give away our give away your knowledge.
\n Kim: Yeah, I actually I really, really respect the honor, that statement, because I think this is like when I talked to, like, e would say, like, it's just different stuff. So it's like one of my coin investors. Daughter is the FBI agent. One of them sons is a share of one of them work at Sterling Bank. So one of the former city manager over a budget of 30 plus in for a few years. So some of them got different brackets and some of them just the average Joe is just trying to figure it out. But they been seeing me do my stuff for a good +67 years way before I focused on trying to profit and so different. So it's always just different levels. But with the higher class, I would say when I won that contest in D. C, the next invites that I had was for the contest speak of the Kentucky Derby out in a Venezuela, London, London and stuff like that, and I personally believe that was like like the women was more kind of set up to conscious. Keep me close to kind of just getting my brain a little bit more and more so than like my actual work, because I focused on people more than product. And the only people who I was presenting was homeless, starving people in Africa locked up teens in juvenile ST Louis and these kids in Ferguson. It wasn't really nothing else. There was no profit like that. So toe win that like that. It was kind of interesting and I've only sold 15 coins, so they have a folx who could do 100,000 transactions per second and just stuff like that. I'm like, Well, we ain't got the top notch stuff and then was even more interesting is I would I got connected with Dr Dre, the guy who was doing on MTV. Oh, with love And not the one with the producer, Dr Dre. So he's out of New York. And, man, he's been nothing, but because I know he's gonna listen to this. I'm gonna share this with him, actually, but he's been nothing but like, ah, support, literally like a big brother and stuff. And, he reached out. He heard this. He was actually on his phone conference that I was on last year and heard me speaking about my whole just just what I got going on. And he reached out to me. We got connected and just been rocking hard. So he was telling me, similar to what you said. He said when you go out there, you know, in D. C? You know, give me, you know, don't if you know, if you give them your best slice of pizza and you know, that's your best slice in the box and they act like it ain't nothing. Try to give it back, spit it out. Whatever. Don't even give no more pizza. And,
\n Jared: Well, he better than me because I would say I wouldn't give him the best slice. Don't nobody deserve the best slice. Just giving a slice of pizza. Now what the fuck they do with it is what the fuck they do with it? Because again, we have to understand that. OK, So and this is why I've been following you. And this is why I told. Yeah, so, yeah, you're not going to stay in touch. You have to be mindful that you have something that is so disruptive. This is about the economy. You have a way because our economy is based on white supremacy. It was structured and founded on the enslavement of Africans and then on the annihilation of indigenous people. That is what our whole economy economy is based on. And this is why I don't get this whole shit about, this is new. Were not No, this is what you have. You has always been based on what you have, sir, and I need you to understand this. So I need you to take a breath and listen to what I'm saying to you. What you have in your possession in your in your knowledge base in the core of your being is a way to fundamentally dismantle white supremacy in our economic system. That's what you have now. I need you to think about how powerful that is. How how? Mm, Because you're not just somebody is talking about because, like, most people be talking about Blockchain and they ain't doing shit talking about Bitcoin and you're making connections that other people aren't making your encircles that other people are in your being You So you need to be mindful. They don't need even the pie. They just need to know that exists. If they want to slice the pie, they need to pay, they need to pay up for the pie. And you still don't give them your best slice
\n Kim: Man. You man, I gotta, you know, let me let me piggyback on that When I was on the movie roots, I just remember I watched that some time ago when I graduated high school just to kinda get refreshed. And, it was one of the guys on there who was who had the job of a slave. He had He went to this little local smart or whatever and he pulled just a change out. And he, of course at the time he didn't know how to account it, or he probably know what it was. So the white guy just kind of put it out. You got his little stuff and kept moving. So and, so it was like, I think this watching that. And then because I've always been like that one in my little group that been, like, just Onley knowing what I know what this tech stuff, but not with other stuff. So I've never actually dealt with nobody. I've seen racist stuff and of course, white folx look at you crazy and all that on some, like ST Louis stuff. But, like for the color that I owe stuff This was the first time that I had somebody come at me and say something that bluntly, and I know that people who organized that event talking about me like that, I'm sure because these Air people these tickets cost a lot of money to come to this event and for a person like myself, toe win that like like saying things like what, Thomas or something like if he went into competition out there targeting and I go say some crazy stuff more likely is probably because, you know, me and Greg probably talking. But if it's just something that I'm saying, then I might mess my connection up with Greg or something like that that would be done to do if I'm tryingto build with them and things like that. So for him to say something like that, I'm like, I know that you are talking like this. So he probably telling you to say this because when I told him back to him, he's like, Well, like if I told you, like, can somebody called me this at your event and what What what? Do you know who it was not. But if you could run the cameras by me again, I could definitely point out who walked up to me, and you could let me know who that is. Well, that's not, you know. Well, you know, my dad told me we all believe the same.
\n Jared: Oh, hell, no. No, Exactly. Know that motherfucker needs to go. Show me. Eso that motherfucking
\n Kim: Yeah. So that's that. So that's the first part. So and I always think about them. The counter buying situation So when I got so, like, makes us could I stayed to Monday night. So Sunday everybody else left. I went left by Monday evening. So monday afternoon, pretty much everybody went, flew back out that way. I'm just in the hotel and I got this other comment which I deleted it like a month ago. But it was some guy and he had to be with the military, but I think he was, like some other military or something. But he I just know he get the posting a lot of little just be as comments on my instagram. And he basically was like, and I had literally all Black jacket, all Black jeans, Black shoes Black had no logo's on Nothing, but he are like, wow, less stylish ***, what's so impressive about this? Is he killing cancer? And I looked at him like so I'm not going his profile pitch and I just see, at least like seven a our rifles, maybe one or two of them on his bed.
\n Jared: I don't think you know, because again. Yeah,
\n Kim: Well, what you're saying, Miss Kim. That's why I'm really sharing these stories. Because you
\n Jared: Know what? I'm happy you are. Because I need people to understand. I need my audience toe Understand why you're sitting on your hands and doing absolutely nothing wringing your hands like, Oh, I don't know what the fucking do. Where we have always been the change makers. We have always been disruptive, but to But that comes at a cost
\n Kim: Thio. And if you
\n Jared: Are fucking lives eso no one's trying to be a model here. Fuck y'all. I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to die for this because this makes absolutely no sense. This is 2019. This is the information economy. What? What is different, though, is before we didn't have we had toe, particularly for stuff. You're doing it just like me for me to have a podcast that would have been so much over here that I couldn't afford to have a podcast. Now I just need to Mike, and ah, subscription to zoom. And, a Twitter account or website Thio get it up on. You know, Spotify, whatever. It costs me next to nothing to do this. So for you and I, this is what I'm trying to get. Want you to understand before we leave this conversation. This I need you to understand that what you're trying to, what you're attempting to do is so revolutionary.
\n Kim: This
\n Jared: Is Malcolm. This is Marcus Garvey. This is Martin. This is Nipsey Hustle. But on a whole, another level, this is disrupting the economic system of white supremacy. And I need you. I need you to grasp that. And it's not about ego. It's not about you just tapped into something, and it's like ignorance is bliss. But being ignorant could cause you harm. It's. And I'm not saying that you're gonna be attacked or anything like that. That's not what I'm saying. But you're giving. You're you're giving nature. These folx ain't in your community. They don't deserve shit from you without getting paid. And they don't deserve your best period,
\n Kim: Man. And if I could close with one thing to the guy in Africa that I helped raise the funds to, he said he'd been trying to do. Now it was a few parts that I couldn't help out with. Of course, that's a huge demand, but just one thing that I was blessed to be able to come through on. He was saying just that small piece he he has been trying to do that with for the last 12 years. What I helped him doing one day, of course, through Onley through the blessings of guy. But he was saying this the this the first time that he not only did he get the first piece accomplished this the first time in 12 years where he was able to raise funds like this without no white man being involved at no point. And I think that that was important because I like I'm thinking about stuff like toe to a certain degree, like all right, well, we still kind of got Western Union being involved. And he's like, Man, that ain't even what I'm talking about. I'm just saying, the
\n Jared: Whole
\n Kim: How I got connected with you. Everything you're paying $200 in us did that converting to 900 CDs over here. He said to get 900 CDs and one day you don't understand how that's impossible. And, so I was like, just for him to say that basically, in the last 12 years, we've been trying to do this part, and now that we've been able to do it. We we never done like nothing like this without some white man being involved, not to excluding this stuff. Like because some good white folx like that. But you know what I'm trying to say for a week For the ones who ain't all good?
\n Jared: Oh, you ain't got to
\n Kim: Explain this audience.
\n Jared: And if you think if they think they do, they could get to kiss my ass because that's what I'm not here to explain.
\n Kim: Yeah, I love it. I love it. It's
\n Jared: Not for their comfort. They need to get uncomfortable with the fuck with the reality of life. They've been comfortable.
\n Kim: I really believe that this is the second time. Could be the 3rd, 4th, 5th. But just for is my understanding the history like the second time that really currency has been created and released. But now it's in a way where we can kind of control it because I didn't have the Security Exchange Commission, a ch Federal Reserve, all of these folx that in my statement, my citing, have been down this year for two weeks straight, like they've been trying to do all that other little stuff now, and, I've had some real, real crazy folx like God has stalkers for the first time. You
\n Jared: Need to, like, really
\n Kim: Stuff I'm
\n Jared: Saying, and and that's what I'm trying to tell you, I don't think you grasp
\n Kim: Because
\n Jared: You're I'm gonna be honest. You're naive. You're You're thinking about Ferguson. You're thinking about ST Louis thistles. Not this is so much bigger than that. The fact that you can fundamentally shift how people in Africa are able to access funds and not have to go through traditional white supremacist system is fundamental. I need you to understand I need you to take some time after this call, and I need you to think about that
\n Kim: Because
\n Jared: You don't get it and I see it. I definitely see where you have the potential to fundamentally up in We talk about what I talk about dismantling white supremacy, which I don't talk about a lot anymore, because that's just a whole bunch of just emotional labor for me. But I talk about it here because we're talking about tech. Tech has been the thing to democratize how we get into this space and this is why I'm so hell bent on removing gatekeepers, removing barriers. This is why I talked to white people the way I do. Because you don't get the right to stop us from being and succeeding with technology anymore. You don't get that right. And so I just need you to understand, sir, that you're onto something, and you need to be mindful of who you give that to. Mhm.
\n Kim: I got you. I got you is ma'am.
\n Jared: So, in our closing moments, what do you want? What? Is there anything you like to say? Yeah.
\n Kim: We just released our Kyler Datta yo Mobile ai assistant as this morning. So for any listeners who is interested in connecting and following us, you can actually takes the word Kyler support one word. No spaces. K y l a r s u p p o r t to the number 555888 And from there you will be able to start getting connected with a lot of good information. We just released that as of this morning, so you'll be able to get trauma support information for our conference. All of our stem classes strictly from that collar data, your assistant
\n Jared: And Also, we'll just make sure that that that that information is in your show notes when when this show airs so that it's always available for people when they come to this episode. Thank you, Jared. So much for being so transparent and for doing the work that you do. I knew when I met you a year ago. It hasn't even been a year that you were doing something special, and I talked. And I mean, I'm not lying here. And you know what I told you that then that you had a message that had to get out. So thank you for taking the time to come on the show.
\n Kim: Thank you as well. Thank you for having me on. And I look forward to coming back soon.
\n Jared: All right. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of the HASHTAG called the Scene Podcast. And I'd like to thank all our current sponsors of the podcast and the hashtag called the scene movement off course. We strongly encourage everyone to become an individual sponsor of the hashtag called the same community. Just visit the website at hashtag called the scene dot com to sign up today on behalf of everyone here at HASHTAG called the scene. We'd like to thank you again for listening to today's show and have a wonderful day. Hi. Hi. Hi. Time Time.